I do believe in a two state solution. I do believe that it is the best chance for peace, especially with moderate Arab leaders.
I do believe that Israel has the right to live in safe and recognized borders, and to live in peace. And I do believe that the Palestine Arabs deserve the right to self…
I personally believe a One State Solution (Israel-Palestine) is the best were both Israelis and Palestinians have equal citizenship and rights with no segregation. I’m pretty sure G*d weeps over that Wall! Is this so hard to ask for, people?!
Except there’s no segregation? Israel isn’t Jim Crow South or apartheid South Africa.
Look, I’d love a world where the violence ended. But a significant percentage of the Palestinian population doesn’t recognize Israel’s right to exist (if I remember right, upwards of 60%), and they’ve incited hatred against Jews for decades. There’s documented evidence from MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute) of incitement against Jews in both Gaza and West Bank/Judea and Samaria.
They are mad because they believe they are under imperialism. Neither side is innocent. Neither is right or wrong and whatever side I hypothetically live in, I would be livid if someone shot my kid. It boils down to respect. If both sides can see that their “enemy” simply have children to raise, bills to pay….families they love… Jesus wasn’t kidding when he said love and bless the enemy. It starts with dialogue and putting yourself in someone’s shoes. I believe both groups have the right to live there but not with evil and hatred. Jews and other groups have always lived together on that bit of land for thousands of years.. It’s in the bible for example. Jerusalem is meant to be a light among nations, but there is a lot of growing to do. It’s a beautiful space and a holy spot, so I hope the best for this situation in God’s name.
They’re not mad because they believe they’re under imperialism. They’re mad because there’s a Jewish state at all, when the last one was some three thousand years ago. They’re mad because in 1948, some 600,000 Jews beat seven Arab armies (some of the best in the region) with arms smuggled in. They’re mad because a people - my people - stereotyped as bookworms and nerds managed to beat back armies and forge a new state.
I disagree with your “neither side is innocent. Neither is right or wrong”. There is something wrong. When the whole of Palestinian Arab society is geared towards hating Jews, Zionists and Israelis, that’s wrong. When there are TV shows that preach murder of Jews for being Jews, that’s wrong. When there are imams who say that Jews are the descendants of apes and pigs, that’s horrifyingly wrong.
There is a side that is right and a side that is wrong.
And I wish that both sides could see it as “we’re people, let’s figure this out as people.” I do, I really do. But when things like this happen, we need to find a solution for it. But when things like this
are freely found in that society, there is something terribly wrong with that society.
Jews may have lived in that area with Muslims, but it was hardly in peace. It was better than 15th century Europe, but not by much. In 1066, the Jewish vizier of Granada was crucified and 5,000 Jews were slaughtered. In 1465, thousands of Jews were slaughtered in Fez (present-day Morocco) for a perceived slight done to a Muslim woman. Mass murders occurred throughout the Arab and Muslim world - Jews were massacred in Algiers in 1805, 1815, and 1830. 300 Jews were murdered in Marrakech (Morocco) between 1864 and 1880. Synagogues were destroyed on a whim. Jews had to pay additional taxes for the sole fact that they were Jews.
Jews were made to live in ghettos across the Arab and Muslim world. In 1941, the Farhud occurred in Iraq - almost 1,000 Jews were killed in two days. This (more or less) ended the Iraqi Jewish community, and the nearly ONE MILLION Mizrahi Jews fled their homes during and after the independence of Israel.
Hell, the Wikipedia entry on anti-Semitism in the Arab world gives more than enough examples of how Jews were treated. It wasn’t a peaceful, co-existence society. It was more or less a master-slave society. Jews were tolerated so long as they knew their place, same with Christians.
It is a holy spot, but it is not treated as such. I hope for peace. I really do. But until the Palestine Arabs stop incitement to hatred. Until they recognize Israel as a Jewish and democratic state. Until they recognize Jews as the rightful landowners of Jewish land, there won’t be peace. Not because of Israel, but of Palestinian stubbornness.
[All images courtesy of Elder of Ziyon, a wonderful pro-Israel blog that everyone should follow. Link is here
Yes, those things are horrific and heartbreaking.. I’ve read and seen horrible things from media from both sides.
Israel has a right to exist and Israel has a right to defend itself.
But because of the tragedy I see on both sides, especially what happens to mothers and children, I believe both sides must check themselves.